Digest Archives Vol 1 Issue 204
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champ-l-digest Saturday, February 13 1999 Volume 01 : Number 204
In this issue:
Re: Desolidification
Character: Old Man Willow
Absorption
Re: Absorption
RE: Paying END sporadically
Re: Absorption
Duplication/Multiform question
Re: [Re: Unity in Nerd Culture [was GenCon 99] ]]
Re: Happy99.exe
Re: Desolidification
Re: [Re: Unity in Nerd Culture [was GenCon 99] ]]
Re: blocking the heavy hits
Re: EC Pool Question
Re: Happy99.exe
Re: Desolidification
Re: Happy99.exe
Re: Absorption
Re: GenCon 99
Re: Desolidification
Re: Happy99.exe
Re: Happy99.exe
Re: Duplication/Multiform question
Character: The One Ring
Re: Happy99.exe
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:39:43 -0800
From: Christopher Taylor <ctaylor@viser.net>
Subject: Re: Desolidification
>And spiritual power only works well with a physical conduit into the
world... some ghosts use there corpses or fragments of their
>corpses in this way (offsetting that +2 cost to affect desolid things) but
if you destroy/ruin/bless the corpse poof they are enfeebled.
I just gave ghosts a power pool limited to ghostly effects that had affects
solid on the pool, and an END reserve to run it with a very slow recovery.
Voila! Ectoplasm. It builds up over time, and allows them the ability to
interact with the real world, but once its used up they cant do anything.
Also a special recovery is given for those who believe/fear the ghost more.
Since the desolid and full invis are bought always on persistent 0 END
they can't interact with the world in any way, shape, or form without the
power pool.
This works for almost any undead who has no physical form and while its
grossly expensive... they ARE desolid after all, and like the man says, TK
is awfully powerful in a fantasy world.
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Sola Gracia Sola Scriptura Sola Fide
Soli Gloria Deo Solus Christus Corum Deo
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:15:06 -0500
From: Scott Nolan <nolan@erols.com>
Subject: Character: Old Man Willow
OLD MAN WILLOW
45 STR 15* * = Growth Figured In
12 DEX 6
30 CON 40
25 BODY 22*
13 INT 3
20 EGO 20
20 PRE 10
10 COM 0
12 PD 7
7 ED 1
3 SPD 8
11 REC 0
60 END 0
53 STUN 0*
Characteristics Cost: 132
27 4 LVLS Growth, Always On,0 END Persistent
6 8/3 Damage Resistance
16 Life Support, doesn't breathe, immune to disease,
immune to aging
4 1 BODY Regeneration, recovery rate: per day
5 20 Extra Limbs
24 4" Stretching, No Noncombat Multiple, 0 END
25 Spatial Awareness
91 10D6 Mind Control, telepathic contact, single command only,
Area Effect, radius, 0 END
33 4D6 Entangle, target and entangle damaged, No Range
Powers Cost: 231
Total Cost: 363
Base Points: 75
15 Distinctive Features, "Giant Willow Tree", not concealable,
minor
5 Watched,"Tom Bombadil", more powerful, mild, appear 8-
15 Physical Limitation, "Immobile", frequently, greatly
5 Physical Limitation, "No Fine Manipulation", infrequently,
slightly
10 Physical Limitation, "Can only use STR in proportion to
size of appendage", frequently,slightly
20 Psychological Limitation, "Hatred of non-plant life", very
common, strong
10 Vulnerability, "Commands of the maiar", uncommon, x2 effect
20 Vulnerability, "Fire", common, x2 body
188 Bonus
Disadvantages Total: 288
Experience Spent: 0
Total Points: 363
Old Man Willow is a sentient willow tree that dominates all other
life in the Old Forest. It appears that he is a bitter, animal-hating
ent. Tom Bombadil describes him and his kind thus:
"Aging no quicker than the hills, the fathers of the fathers of the trees,
remembering times when they were lords. Their countless years had
filled them with pride and rooted wisdom and with malice. But none
was more dangerous than the Great Willow. His heart was rotten
but his strength was green; and he was cunning and a master of the
winds, and his song ran through the woods on both sides of the river.
His thirsty spirit drew power out of the earth and spread like fine
root-threads in the ground and like invisible twig-fingers in the air,
till it had under its dominion nearly all the trees of the forest from
the Downs to the Hedge."
Old Man Willow hates all things that run free on the earth. It uses
the wind to create a powerful, sighing song that speaks to all creatures
of sleep and rest against its trunk. It then swallows them up into
it's trunk where it slowly pulverizes them with it's massive strength.
Those creatures that resist it can be slashed at with branches or
pushed into the nearby river and held underwater with its roots.
NOTES:
1) Old Man Willow rarely moves, but this does not mean he is
incapable of moving. Nonetheless, I have chosen to represent
this as a physical limitation since he only moves every few
centuries or so.
2) Old Man Willow can use its full Strength only with it's trunk
and largest brances. It's roots have only a STR of 15.
3) Old Man Willow is capable of speaking clearly to those
whom it has imprisoned in its trunk. It is unclear whether
it can communicate clearly to anyone else.
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"Nor law nor duty bade me fight,
Nor public men, nor cheering crowds,
A lonely impulse of delight
Drove to this tumult in the clouds."
W.B. Yeats, An Irish Airman Forsees His Death
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Scott C. Nolan
nolan@erols.com
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:39:09 -0600
From: "Commando" <commando@mail.com>
Subject: Absorption
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:06:22 -0800 (PST)
From: shaw@caprica.com (Wayne Shaw)
Subject: Re: Absorption
>If a character set-up his absorption for the points to go to the strength
>characteristic, would the gain also affect figured characteristics?
Nope. As with Aid and Transfer, it only goes into the attribute itself.
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:11:57 -0800
From: "Filksinger" <filkhero@usa.net>
Subject: RE: Paying END sporadically
From: Stainless Steel Rat
> "F" == Filksinger <filkhero@usa.net> writes:
>
> F> You misunderstand. Once it infects your machine, _then_
> it automatically
> F> runs whenever you send email or news messages.
>
> No, you misunderstant. It will never infect my machine
> because it will
> never be run on my machine in the first place.
Which is irrelevant to what he said or your response. He said it ran
"automatically", meaning that, _once it was installed_, it sent itself
out on its own. You stated that he was wrong, because it had to be run
by someone to install. This has nothing to do with whether or not it
runs automatically after it installed, which is what he was trying to
say.
You say you didn't misunderstand him. Fine. However, if you didn't,
then why was what you said irrelevant to what he meant?
> Since it
> will never be
> executed, it cannot function as a trojan horse. OS is
> irrelevant to this:
> if you do not run it, it cannot infect your system, period.
Still irrelevant to what he meant. I don't know if you still
understand what _he_ meant, or are going off on a tangent here.
> F> No, it wouldn't. Of course, as time goes on, and more
> and more people use
> F> Linux (if they do), eventually Linux viruses will begin
> to propagate. But
> F> that is still in the future, and may never happen.
>
> Well, that cannot happen. Unix (and Linux) by design is a
> protected system
> and memory architecture, which makes it impossible for a
> virus to infect a
> system. It cannot, because it does not have the priveleges
> to do so. Same
> goes for just about all other multi-user operating systems.
Viruses have been written that infect Unix systems. I thought you knew
that. A boot sector virus can readily infect a Unix PC, however,
though it may need to be written with one in mind. Even so, it would
be able to infect, even if infection meant boot failure.
> Single-user
> operating systems like all flavors of Microsoft Windows
> (including NT),
> Macintosh, AmigaDOS, what have you, are all vulnerable as
> they have little
> or no memory or system protection.
Quite correct, that they are poorly protected and Unix is better
protected. However, viruses have been written for Unix. They were
flops, but that was at least partly because of the people who were
using Unix, not just because Unix was hard to infect. Get enough end
users involved who don't protect themselves well, and someone will
write a successful one.
Filksinger
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:23:13 -0500
From: Mike Christodoulou <Cypriot@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Absorption
At 01:39 AM 2/13/99 -0600, Commando wrote:
>
> If a character set-up his absorption for the points to go to the strength
> characteristic, would the gain also affect figured characteristics?
No. See BBB(4th), pg. 54.
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:23:34 +0100
From: Black Bishop <BISHOP@bdc2.sirnet.it>
Subject: Duplication/Multiform question
Hi to everyone =)
A my player would to do this character : a Man that can create other two
people like him mental linked to him (and it isn't difficult: Duplication
and Mind Link)
But the problem is : When they resemble in one he would become a large
monster that resemble the 3 figures (6 arms, 3 head *3 size and so)
I think it is a original Idea
Well I though about a Multipower like this:
X Multipower
X/10 Duplication : 2 people etc etc
X/10 Multiform : Monster etc etc
I know it is a violation of stricht rules but, gods, Champion is a flexible
rulesystem no ?
i think it is good but then my problem is :
How could make the monster POWERFUL (seeing he should be less powerful
than normal with this system)
Thank ya all folks
Black Bishop
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:12:14 +1000
From: "Lockie" <jonesl@cqnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Re: Unity in Nerd Culture [was GenCon 99] ]]
you're right about ccg's, there's no 'it happened to them now
its our turn' happeneing here. but different froms of roleplaying
can only enhance the hobby- and each other. For one setting,
i've done tabletop, pbem and other orpg's and even campaigning
based on wh40k and starcraft games (gak! sacrelige! furthering storyline
with the tools of the enemy!) . All the styles have their plusss and minuss,
but it makes for interesting gaming.
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:21:42 -0500
From: Glen Sprigg <borealis@cois.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Happy99.exe
>Based on the following data, I consider it likely that Filksinger didn't do
>this intentionally. He probably got infected himself and sent it out
>unknowingly. Filksinger! Clean your drive carefully, okay! Good luck! :)
>
>I _never_ open attachments from people I don't know, so I was safe.
>Anti-virus programs and utilities are fine. But practice safe netting
>anyway!
>
I'm happy to say that I got this as e-mail text rather than as a file; it
was like a printout of the code. So I don't have to worry about it causing
any problems to my system. Anyone else get it like this?
Glen
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:00:18 +1000
From: "Lockie" <jonesl@cqnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Desolidification
that just happened in my game(a bunch of villains as pcs currently).
one of the villains got a very high rpd/red battlesuit, so everyone dipped
into
their cp and asked me for spontaniously generated armor piercing on their
main attacks. Then one of them said 'oh don't worry, i alreayd have
find weakness' and they all switched to asking for spontaniously
generated hardened defences and lack of weakness.
- -----Original Message-----
From: chrisopher spoor <arcus@webtv.net>
To: champ-l@sysabend.org <champ-l@sysabend.org>
Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Desolidification
" Anytime you think an idea is keen, think of it being used against you.
"
Oh I do I do trust me i do.
and I devise a defense immediately [:8)
Arcus
The Mayor of Munchkin City
Oh and Filksinger, what's wrong with writing yourself up with 2,000 pts.
[:8)
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:08:15 +1000
From: "Lockie" <jonesl@cqnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Re: Unity in Nerd Culture [was GenCon 99] ]]
can't we do both?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Scott Nolan <nolan@erols.com>
To: champ-l@sysabend.org <champ-l@sysabend.org>
Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: Unity in Nerd Culture [was GenCon 99] ]]
>>An on-line role-playing game would be more like WebRPG, where you have a
>>place to set up and run your game. There might someday be nifty graphics
>>and/or game engines in the system based on your favorite game, but
>>you'll ultimately need something with a GM out there running it (unless
>>you have a true AI), with many bells and whistles. So quit your griping:
>>that won't be a bad thing, it will just computerize the "pens and
>>papers".
>
>Feh. No computer game will ever replace a group sitting in the basement,
>laughing and passing the chips and dip.
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>(What like a bullet can undeceive!)
>But now they lie low,
>While over them the swallows skim,
>And all is hushed at Shiloh.
> Herman Melville, Shiloh, A Requiem (April 1862)
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Scott C. Nolan
>nolan@erols.com
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:18:44 +1000
From: "Lockie" <jonesl@cqnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: blocking the heavy hits
even the lightest of touches must *touch*. this guy can shatter your spine
with a casual shrug,
you ain't diverting him anywhere.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lance Dyas <lancelot@binary.net>
To: happyelf <jonesl@hotkey.net.au>
Cc: Champions <champ-l@sysabend.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: blocking the heavy hits
>Apples and oranges are getting compared perhaps
>
>A Blocking Parry is different than a Diverting Parry
>
>Diverting Parries require far less energy to be absorbed
>by what you are diverting with (and the more skilled the
>implementation the less it is) and can make an opening
>for you to attack against the person you are parrying. It
>is directed versus a specific attack (and is more vulnerable
>to a feint)
>
>A blocking parry can be very nearly a passive defense and
>takes less timing and energy to get it into place and it can
>more easily apply versus multiple attacks to the same region.
>
>No they arent really that discrete but it might be a useful way of
emulating it
>
>happyelf wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>
>> To: Champions <champ-l@sysabend.org>
>> Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 2:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: blocking the heavy hits
>>
>> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> >Hash: SHA1
>> >
>> >"N" == Nuncheon <jeffj@io.com> writes:
>> >
>> >N> Er...but I think the point would be that if Person B wasn't as strong
as
>> >N> they were, that the block would have worked. Also, there's no
mechanism
>> >N> in HERO for making Blocks more difficult based on the strength of the
>> >N> attacker.
>> >
>> >Ask any student of Aikido, he'll tell you that the strength of an
attacker
>> >is largely irrelevant to neutralizing his attack. Making Blocks more
>> >difficult based on the strength of the attacker is just plain wrong.
>> >
>>
>> not so. it amkes a nice line, but if you're stong enough youn can break
>> out of things. also, we're talking class 100 strength here!
>> they're punching so hard the pavement is shattering beneath their feet. .
>
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:17:26 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: EC Pool Question
At 04:08 PM 2/12/99 -0600, Brats Incorporated wrote:
>Here is ny question regarding EC pools.
>
>When placing Characteristics into an EC pool, can you place more than one
stat
>into the same EC slot? i.e. Can I plac STR and DEX into the same slot?
Generally, I'd say no; however, reasonable minds may differ on that.
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:14:16 EST
From: Leah L Watts <llwatts@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Happy99.exe
>I'm happy to say that I got this as e-mail text rather than as a file;
>it
>was like a printout of the code. So I don't have to worry about it
>causing
>any problems to my system. Anyone else get it like this?
Yep -- I'm still running standard Juno, which doesn't accept file
attachments. Click on message, see bunch of ASCII that looks like a cat
jumped on the keyboard, hit "delete", no problem.
(I've been thinking about switching to Juno Gold, which allows file
attachments, but this little episode is making me reconsider ....)
Leah
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:14:16 EST
From: Leah L Watts <llwatts@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Desolidification
>I just gave ghosts a power pool limited to ghostly effects that had
affects
>solid on the pool, and an END reserve to run it with a very slow
recovery.
>Voila! Ectoplasm. It builds up over time, and allows them the ability
to
>interact with the real world, but once its used up they cant do
anything.
>Also a special recovery is given for those who believe/fear the ghost
more.
How do you work the "special recovery" -- I assume it's bonus recovery
bought with a limitation, but how much limitation do you give for it?
Leah
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:20:01 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: Happy99.exe
At 04:57 PM 2/12/99 -0600, Curt Hicks wrote:
>
>> At 02:12 PM 2/12/99 -0500, David A. Fair wrote:
>> >exucurt@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>> >>So what are you saying ? This has been bought with the 'sticky'
>> >>advantage ?
>> >>Does that mean computer viruses are bought as entangles ?
>> >
>> >No, they are Transforms.
>> >
>
>Looks to me like **Invisible** **Sticky** Transforms.
>But, do they have a fringe effect ?
Depends on the virus, but I'd say most were *written* by someone on the
fringe of society, so....
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:40:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Dale Ward <daleaward@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Absorption
Greetings!
- ---Commando <commando@mail.com> wrote:
>
> If a character set-up his absorption for the points to go to the strength
> characteristic, would the gain also affect figured characteristics?
>
I seem to recall seeing something about an advantage Affects Figured
Characteristics. I'm not sure where I saw it or how much of a modifier it
called for, but it would seem to be the only way to get the effect you're
describing.
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:44:30 +1000
From: "Lockie" <jonesl@cqnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: GenCon 99
- -----Original Message-----
From: Tim Gilberg <gilberg@ou.edu>
Cc: champs-l@sysabend.org <champs-l@sysabend.org>
Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: GenCon 99
>
>> > GW? Not really wargames, in my opinion. More like
>> >Battletech--Miniatures Lite.
>> >
>> oh yeah. real men play panzer dragoon, or something.
>
> Well, something historical, usually. Or at least something with
>more realistic rules than the MoneyPit that is Warhammer. I've played a
>few Civil War miniatures to see what they're like--not bad, but I really
>prefer TableTop RPGing, LARPing (non-WoD), and miniatures-lite (B-Tech).
>
>> your pawns turn against you! oh wait, can't do that in chess(unless yer a
>> certain doctor).
>> Rpgs, it's quite possible. .
>
> Then give me chess--those pawns are an important part of my
>attack.
>
"hey japan? would you mind not bombing pearl habour, there's a bunch of oil
and ships and stuff there we need for the war effort. Thanks in advance!"
>
> -Tim Gilberg
> -"English Majors of the World! Untie!"
>
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:32:01 -0800
From: Christopher Taylor <ctaylor@viser.net>
Subject: Re: Desolidification
>>I just gave ghosts a power pool limited to ghostly effects that had affects
>>solid on the pool, and an END reserve to run it with a very slow recovery.
>>Voila! Ectoplasm. It builds up over time, and allows them the ability to
>>interact with the real world, but once its used up they cant do anything.
>>Also a special recovery is given for those who believe/fear the ghost more.
>
>How do you work the "special recovery" -- I assume it's bonus recovery
>bought with a limitation, but how much limitation do you give for it?
- -1/4. Since the ghost is bought with a physical limitation that it cannot
leave the general area that it is haunting (the house, the tomb, etc), it
isnt that much of a limitation for people that are there to fear it in it's
setting, that is its job and rep.
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Soli Gloria Deo Solus Christus Corum Deo
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:01:52 EST
From: CptPatriot@aol.com
Subject: Re: Happy99.exe
Couldn't someone get a virus if the e-mail was send as HTML with a script
language of some sort?
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:59:48 +1000
From: "Lockie" <jonesl@cqnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Happy99.exe
i can go one better than that quirk. After downloading 230 messages- one of
which was the
virus post- i quickly reviewed the info an decided i was safe, since i never
open anything, ever.
I even considered a minor spham message to the list to the effect of 'heh
heh, we sure kicked that virus's ass'. then, my crappy outlook express
thingie asks to reformat my mail folders or something to free up space.
While that was happening, there was a blackout.
When i rebooted the auto-scandisk wisked me right past the 'skip undo'
option
(my bad keyboard hittige i assume), leaving me with 230 email messages stuck
in my inbox and undeletable- including one virus. I think i'll just leave it
there. . . .
- -----Original Message-----
From: Leah L Watts <llwatts@juno.com>
To: champ-l@sysabend.org <champ-l@sysabend.org>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: Happy99.exe
>>I'm happy to say that I got this as e-mail text rather than as a file;
>>it
>>was like a printout of the code. So I don't have to worry about it
>>causing
>>any problems to my system. Anyone else get it like this?
>
>Yep -- I'm still running standard Juno, which doesn't accept file
>attachments. Click on message, see bunch of ASCII that looks like a cat
>jumped on the keyboard, hit "delete", no problem.
>
>(I've been thinking about switching to Juno Gold, which allows file
>attachments, but this little episode is making me reconsider ....)
>
>Leah
>
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:40:43 -0500
From: Mathieu Roy <matroy@abacom.com>
Subject: Re: Duplication/Multiform question
Black Bishop wrote:
> Hi to everyone =)
[Snip concept]
> Well I though about a Multipower like this:
>
> X Multipower
> X/10 Duplication : 2 people etc etc
> X/10 Multiform : Monster etc etc
No need to have a multipower. Create a Multiform, and have the normal human
form have Duplication. This is both more legal and less kludgy.
> i think it is good but then my problem is :
> How could make the monster POWERFUL (seeing he should be less powerful
> than normal with this system)
Give him more points? Your many-armed monsters SHOULD be less powerful than the
typical PC in your campaign, since Multiform is a powerful ability that needs
to be paid for with points.
However, if your many-armed monster is primarily a combat machine, you can save
points by having the human-with-Duplication (which is likely going to be the
Secret ID form anyway) take the non-combat and backround skills.
Mathieu
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:26:34 -0500
From: Scott Nolan <nolan@erols.com>
Subject: Character: The One Ring
THE ONE RING
18 DEX 24
25 INT 15
35 EGO 50
40 PRE 30
4 SPD 12
Characteristics Cost: 131
48 Invisibility, Sight Group, no fringe, IIF, 0 END
2 Life Support, immune to aging, IIF
8 Astral Vision, IIF
38 12D6 Mind Control, "Take Possession of and use the Ring",
telepathic contact, single command only,
Usable by Ring, not wearer,IIF,0 END
9 1/2D6 major Transform, "to slavish servant of the Ring",
Gradual (every day), IIF, Continuous, Uncontrolled,
0 END Persistent
343 12D6 Aid, vs SFX (all powers), IIF, 0 END,
Only to Enhance Character's Nature, Continuous,
Uncontrolled
Powers Cost: 448
Total Cost: 579
Base Points: 75
15 Distinctive Features, "Feels heavy, has phrase written
inside", easily concealable, extreme
10 Hunted, "Sauron", as powerful, harsh, appear 8-
10 Hunted, "Saruman", as powerful, harsh, appear 8-
5 Watched, "The Wise", as powerful, harsh, appear 8-
20 Psychological Limitation, "Intensely Evil", common, total
10 Reputation, "Repository of Sauron's Power", occur 8-,
extreme reputation
434 Ruling Ring Bonus
Disadvantages Total: 504
Experience Spent: 0
Total Points: 579
The One Ring was the greatest of the Rings of Power, forged in secret
by Sauron at Orodruin, after helping the elves of Eregion forge the other
nineteen. At the last, Celebrimbor the smith perceived Sauron's evil
design for the Rings, and kept the three elven rings free of his stain of
evil. For the One Ring was created to dominate the wearers of the
other Rings of Power, and so to bring the leaders of the Free Peoples
under Sauron's dominion.
Sauron succeeded with the nine Rings of Man, and they created his
most powerful servants, the great nazgul. The seven Dwarven Rings
failed to bring the dwarves to his service, but did make them petty
and miserly, and so brought the seven houses of the dwarves to ruin.
In addition, Sauron placed much of his power into the One Ring, causing
him to become far greater when wearing it, but far weaker without it.
Most of his great works, such the towers of Barad-Dur and Dol Guldur
were tied up with its power and were eventually destroyed when it was.
More importantly, although his form could be destroyed, as long as the
One Ring existed, Sauron could not be permanently slain. Only by
destroying the Ring could the Dark Lord be forever destroyed.
When the Last Alliance of Men and Elves defeated Sauron in Second
Age 3441, Isildur, Elendil, Cirdan, Gil-Galad and Elrond defeated Sauron.
Anarion was killed, and Elendil lay dying. Isildur cut the ring from
Sauron's hand, but refused to cast it into the Sammath Naur, as the
elves counselled him to do, but took it for his own.
Two years later, as he rode north to resume the kingship of Arnor,
he was slain by a band of orcs on the Gladden Fields, and the One
Ring slipped from his finger and was lost in the mires of the Anduin
for many centuries. About the year Third Age 2463, the hobbit
Deagol found the ring while diving in the shallows, and his brother
Smeagol immediately murdered him to take possession of it.
Under the influence of the Ring, Smeagol became evil and was
driven out by his family. Having no great ambitions, Smeagol
received no great power from the Ring, which used him to transport
it to the Misty Mountains. It granted him an incredibly long life,
but no extra life. Instead, it stretched out the life he had into one
long, agonizing now, slowly transforming the hapless hobbit
into the monstrous Gollum, who lived only to eat and possess the
Ring.
Gollum lived by eating fish and waylaying small orcs for five
hundred years until the Ring slipped from his finger just before
the arrival in Third Age 2941 of Bilbo Baggins, who was on his
way to Erebor. Bilbo possessed the Ring (and was also
preserved from age, if not from time) for sixty years. He gave
the Ring to Frodo in 3001. Frodo possessed it until 3018
when he began the Quest of the Ring. Taking the Ring
to Orodruin, in Mordor, Frodo was at last overcome by it's power,
and refused to destroy it. Only Gollum's intervention caused
the Rings destruction, thus permanently preventing Sauron
from ever taking shape again.
The Ring was a plain band of gold, which felt slightly heavy
in the hand. When heated in a fire, glowing words appeared
on it in Black Speech: "One Ring to Rule them all, One Ring
to Find them. One Ring to Bring them all, and in the Darkness
Bind them." It could only be destroyed in the fires of the volcano
Orodruin, where it was forged.
The Ring was sentient. It left Isildur because it did not wish
him to have it's power, and found Bilbo because it knew that
Sauron's return was at hand. Those who wore it entered halfway
into the Spirit World, thus becoming invisible and capable of
seeing spirits (like the nazgul) as they really are. The Ring also
exerted a powerful call to those around it, offering them power
and all they desired if only they would take it and use it.
Finally, the Ring had great power to enhance the spirit of the
wearer, but for evil causes. Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel
all refused the Ring because they knew it would make them
into another Dark Lord. Saruman wanted it for that very reason.
Boromir correctly saw that he could defeat Sauron and bring
Gondor to dominion over the earth if he wore the Ring.
Even Sam Gamgee the hobbit saw that he could make the
entire world into a garden under his control with the Ring.
Only the very wise, such as Gandalf and Aragorn, or the very
simple, such as Sam Gamgee, could avoid it's powerful call.
The Ring was known as the One Ring, The Ring, The Ruling Ring,
The Ring of Power, The Great Ring, the Ring of Rings, The Master
Ring, Isildur's Bane, The Burden (by Frodo) and Preciouss (by Gollum).
NOTES:
1) I have represented the Ring as a Spirit and bought all its
powers through a focus. This is in keeping with the Ring's
sentient nature.
2) The "Only to Enhance Character's Nature" limitation means that
the Ring does not grant bolts of power. It enhances what the character
already does. Gandalf would become an even more powerful wizard.
Boromir would become an unbeatable general and physical powerhouse.
Gollum became even more pathetic. Galadriel would become a
powerful, cleansing spirit, burning the world in her zeal.
3) I have bought the Aid as 10 points per die, instead of 5. I feel this
is the reasonable price for Aid.
4) This version of the Ring is different than the one shown in the Frodo
writeup. I will use this version (pending further useful commentary from
the list) in the final writeup.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Do not despise the lore that has come down from
distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives
keep in memory word of things that once it were
needful for the wise to know."
J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Scott C. Nolan
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:00:52 -0500
From: geoff heald <gheald@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Happy99.exe
At 12:01 PM 2/13/99 EST, you wrote:
>Couldn't someone get a virus if the e-mail was send as HTML with a script
>language of some sort?
>
I have heard that Win98 allows HTML to address the operating system, so you
could write an email that reformatted people's hard drives, for instance.
There is security built into Win98 to warn you about dangerous HTML when it
comes in, but it won't filter your email and once it is on your harddrive
Win98 Assumes it is safe.
============================
Geoff Heald
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